at https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/index.html#RFKiView050220 EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement Robert F Kennedy Jr talks vaccines, Dr Fauci, family history and JFK assassination with Patrick Bet-David https://youtu.be/QLi6ZrFp6vQ 2 May 2019 (2:19:45) Auto-generated transcript without timestamps https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView Childrens Health Defense: childrenshealthdefense.org Instagram: @robertfkennedyjr instagram.com/robertfkennedyjr/ Books: American Values: Lessons I Learned from My Family (2018) Horsemen of the Apocalypse: The Men Who Are Destroying Life on EarthÑAnd What It Means for Our Children (2017) Thimerosal: Let the Science Speak: The Evidence Supporting the Immediate Removal of MercuryÑa Known NeurotoxinÑfrom Vaccines (2015) Patrick Bet-David: During the Iranian Revolution of 1978, Patrick's family had to escape to survive and ended up living at a refugee camp in Erlangen, Germany. At 12 years old Patrick found himself collecting cans & beer bottles to raise money that could help his family and get him a Nintendo. These childhood experiences had a major impact on his perspective of freedom, hard work and entrepreneurship. Today, he is CEO of PHP Agency, Inc. a financial services company with over 15,000 agents in 49 states and Puerto Rico and an active YouTube creator commonly known for his investigative journalistic approach to interviews and unorthodox business teachings. when you do a google search that will direct you away from anything that harms the pharmaceutical industry it makes no sense notoriously corrupt this is a crisis much worse than the coronavirus crisis what are you saying that so offensive where many of these social media platforms or even mainstream media wants to a sense are you from Anderson Cooper is sponsored by Pfizer NBC Nightly News is sponsored by Merck these companies are making fifty billion dollars a year selling mandatory vaccines it's a goldmine who is holding them accountable you cannot make a vaccine safely zero consequence if they kill you or if they injure you from life is that proven abd ADHD speech of a peanut allergies autism rates one in twenty two boys debilitated for life is completely irresponsible what is your thoughts and opinions on Bill and Melinda Gates how can he continue to insist African children get that shot but he knows it's probably killing millions kids what would you rank him as the most powerful man in the world he's the most powerful man because he owns w-h-o you don't sound like a Democrat I Jean is about surveillance and it's about data harvesting you are unleashing the devil here why is your data right and not their data they're bowing down a genuflect anthony pouchy you can't go to the beach you can't go shop your kids can't go to school you have to stay in your house it's a provable lie what conclusion do you have with what happened both with your father and your own pool I spoke to Cubans who've met Oswald and they made the conclusion that yeah it was a conspiracy did you ever think you would make it sweet victory I know this slice meant for me here yeah why would you bet on Goliath well we got red tape value came in given values contagious this world of entrepreneurs we can't no value to haters honey run homie look what I'll become I'm the unborn [Music] my guest today is Robert Kennedy jr. here's the chairman of children's help defense he's written many books and he's also one of the greatest environmentalist Crusaders of our time with that being said Robert thank you for being a guest on value tainment thank you so so Robert just out of curiosity why why did you want to do a long-form interview and kind of share some of your thoughts and views with the current times with with what's taking place with coronavirus with pouchy with vaccines with all these things being done why'd you agree to do it along from interview Patrick I I've been working on this issue for 15 years the problem with this issue is if most people understood it most people heard me talk about it or hurt me about it I think most people would agree with my positions which are common-sense provisions axing should be tested like every other drug the problem is we don't get to convey those thoughts to anybody because of the censorship I haven't been allowed to publish editorial since 2008 newspapers will attack me and then will not allow me to rebut in any way I can't even write letters to the editor I cannot appear on television social media Facebook Google Instagram all censor what we're saying oh I can I have an Instagram account I have you know a lot of followers on Instagram and that's where I mainly communicate but they are severely restricted and be at me being able to share the answer to clients other people that's constricted I'm not allowed to boost it oh my my growth is much slower than it would have been if I was actually allowed to pose we can't do that on any of the social media sites social media sites like Google are intertwined and tangled financially with the pharmaceutical industry million dollar deal with clack so it's working with all the pharmaceutical companies to harvest data to get people's medical data through Alexis through Siri through your cell phones when they're left on it the microphone is working and through your buying habits monitoring those things up there they earn a partnership Google actually is part of a larger company called alphabet and there are other subsidiaries of that company that actually manufacture vaccines so Google I actively sensors it when you do when you do a Google search it added so search to make sure that you do not find the things that are the most common search subjects it will direct you towards things that will direct you away from anything that harms the pharmaceutical industry it will direct you are away from vitamins it will direct you away from chiropractors it will direct you away from functional health or in a grade of medicine or any kind of alternative to the aula Pathak you know pharmaceutical paradigm what are you saying that so offensive where many of these social media platforms or even mainstream media wants to censor you from I know like here's the here's a story Patrick I got dragged into the vaccine issue really kicking and screaming very reluctantly I'm an environmental lawyer I ran the biggest still do they get this water protection group an oral board or keeper Alliance I'll tell you how I got into this in the early 2000s we have we have 350 water keepers in 46 countries around the world each one has a patrol boat they patrol their local River and they sue polluters who are degrading it or contaminating it in around 2002 to 2005 I was act a litigating about against on 40 coal burning power plants and cement kilns for discharging mercury the mercury was coming out of their smokestacks landing on the landscapes was contaminating fish and at that time FDA did a study in 2003 and then every freshwater fish in America now had dangerous levels of mercury in its flashes so we were specifically a lot of people were suing coal burning power glass we were specifically suing them on mercury and I was going around the country pushing legislation talking about my lawsuits raising money and almost every public appearance that I made there would be groups of women who would show up and they would come up to me afterward and it turns out and all of those women were women who had children with intellectual disabilities and they believed that their children had been harmed by the vaccines and specifically amp from the mercury that was that in you know many of the vaccine still isn't some of them today and they would say to me if you're in kind of a mildly scolding but respectful way if you're genuinely interested in mercury contamination to children you need to look at the vaccines something that I wanted to do I was very content doing you know protecting rivers I had been raised and spirited of the movement for rights for people with intellectual disabilities but I worked in camp Shriver from when I was a little kid as a counselor as a hugger it later became Special Olympics the year my father was killed in 1968 we turned that into Special Olympics and my family I worked for hundreds of hours when I was in high school that was a to come from the retarded because it was a central preoccupation of my family children particularly with intellectual disabilities it's not I had a lot of exposure to it but it's not where I wanted to spend my lot of empathy I really was committed to spending my life trying to clean up and clean energy and those issues one of these women came to my home in the summer of 2004 with a big pile of scientific studies about of 18 inches thick and she put it on my front porch she was a psychologist from Minnesota named Center Bridget she had a child we got an autism from vaccines had actually got a 20 million dollar award from the vaccine court which wrecking his autism that come from the vaccine she brought that she didn't want it to happen to any other kids she owe me this big pops I'm pick studies and she said I'm not leaving here until you now I'm very accustomed to reading science I brought it over 500 successful was it's my career almost all of them involve some kind of scientific controversy so I actually started I'm not gonna say I read all the sunny it's cover to cover but I read the abstract which is the summary at the beginning of this idea before I was six inches into that pile I was on Ernie dumbstruck I a huge Delta between what the actual published peer-reviewed science was saying and what the public health regulators were telling the public and doctors and everybody else about the safety of vaccines it's not real eyes if there was a real problem and that these vaccines vaccines are kind of a country unlike other medicines are never safety tested people find out it astonishing the reason for that is an artifact of CDC's legacy as the Public Health Service now it was the predecessor organization C to CDC Public Health Service was a quasi-military agency which is why people at CDC still have military ranks like Surgeon General etc and the vaccine program was initially launched as a national security defense against a biological attack on our country so regulators and the Pentagon wanted to make sure that if the Russians attack the anthrax or some other biological agents they could quickly fabricate and deploy a vaccine to 200 million people without regulatory impediments and so they said if we call it a medicine we're gonna have to safety test it and that usually takes two to five years let's call it something else we'll call it biologic and then we will exempt biologics from having to do safety testing oh the industry the four companies that make all seventy-two vaccines that are currently mandated for our children I've got another gift at that has contributed to the lack of safety assessments and lack of safety concerns with vaccines and that is 1986 there was a vaccine I got three vaccines when I was a kid my eighty-six there was about eleven of them and one of them was called them if they're a tetanus and pertussis of the DTP vaccine and it was killing lots and lots of children and it was causing brain damage and a tremendous number of children and the industry was getting the suit oh why is which is that alcohol Pfizer went to Congress and that we are getting another vaccine industry because we'll we're paying twenty dollars in damages every $1 we make from this vaccine and you cannot make a vaccine safely you you cannot it is impossible to make a vaccine it's completely safe you are gonna injure a certain amount of people and the injuries are going to be Grievous enough that nobody will ever make any money on vaccines because they're gonna have to pay more injuries and we can't make them better and we're going to get out of the industry all again their hands stopped making vaccines unless you give us complete blanket immunity from liability so Congress of the Democratic Congress Republican President Reagan all of them taking lots of money from these pharmaceutical number one contributor pastel—n 1986 called the vaccine act or FICA which a blanket nearly so no matter how remiss your injury or your child's injury no matter how toxic the ingredient no matter how sloppy the line protocols no matter how negligent that company you cannot sue them or redress so there's no discovery there's no depositions there's no medical malpractice there's no class actions zero consequence if they kill you or if they enter you from lighting and the vaccine companies or the pharmaceutical companies took a look that at the landscape and they said holy cow now we have a product and there is no liability and for every medical product the biggest cost is paying liability at the back end so they said no you know that's wrong we don't have to worry number two we don't if the safety test them oh there's no reason there's there's no that's a huge cost also or every other medication that they're now avoided third there's no marketing cause and the zero advertising cost because the government is gonna mandate this product the seventy eight million people so there's no market forces into or legal forces that tell us to make this vaccine safe and there's no reason to make it safe because nobody can sue you nobody can do this country there's no consequence of giving you a really dangerous xane oh there was a goal and by the way without with all those costs waive and mandatory um consumption of that product it's a gold mine oh if you can get a vaccine on the CDC schedule it's worth a billion dollars a year typically to your company oh there was a gold rush and all of these companies rushed on CDC and captured the agency and got them to mandate all these vaccines and we went from the three vaccines that I had as a kid 272 doses of vaccines that you know my children's generation is getting and what happened and that began a process began in 1989 and if you look at what happened in 89 we suddenly had an epidemic of chronic disease so um the allergic disease peanut allergies suddenly became epidemic peanut allergy is in my generation or it might in the generation in 1986 or about 1 in 1200 today it's 1 in 12 kids II asthma exploded mother allergic disease anaphylaxis eczema which I never heard of when I was kid now is everywhere its ubiquitous we know that all those injuries are caused by vaccines those are the allergic illnesses neurodevelopmental disorders abd ADHD speciall a tics narcolepsy language delay SIDS and ast and autism suddenly exploded autism rates went from one in ten thousand to five in my generation to one in every 34 kids today one in every twenty two boys this is a crisis as much worse than the coronavirus crisis one in twenty two boys debilitated for life never write poetry never vote now half of them will never use a toilet none of them half of them will never utter a word it'll never go on a date I'll never play tack pay taxed it'll never serve in the army there's one in every twenty two boys this is a huge huge crisis that divorce coronavirus and no and the CDC if there are 700 measles cases in this country will put 1,200 forensic pathologists virologists and moon suits and they'll go out to turn over every Rock and find out where that came from what is causing it u.s. CDC which is the Center for Disease Control their job is to tell where these diseases are coming from where's the peanut allergies coming from I don't know where's the autism coming from there's the APD where all these autoimmune diseases why are we exploding with juvenile diabetes rheumatoid arthritis fibromyalgia the reason is because they know where it's coming from it's coming from the vaccines and it's not me saying this if you look all there's 420 diseases that are now epidemic since 1989 and by the way Congress told EPA tell us what year you autism epidemic begin and the EPA scientists came back and said we can draw a red line it happened in 89 that's when everything changed but those diseases that are now epidemic is 420 diseases they appear on two lists one is a list of diseases that become epidemic since 1989 and two they are on the manufacturers inserts listed as side effects from vaccination and the reason for that Patrick is because if the one way that you can sue a vaccine company under vikon is if they know of an injury that's caused by vaccines a side effect and they fail the listed on their manufacturers inserts so that's one place they're honest and if you look at the deep at the DTaP vaccine autism is listed as an insert on their insert the night everywhere else they admit on their inserts and that's where you can go to get the truth let me say one other thing you know that my party the Democratic Party is the worst on this issue and it's very odd to me that they're mandating these vaccines that are untested how can you mandate any medication for human thing how can you tell somebody you're gonna force you to take a medication that you don't want to take and you know we started treating Nuremberg charter after World War two because the Nazis were doing that they were testing magazines on people and all these other medical treatments and we said that is a war crime we don't do that to people and we sign the surrogate you know the Syracuse protocol is a UN Charter Human Rights Alinsky Accords the Nuremberg charter all of those saying them you cannot give a medication to somebody yes they well even if a life of the nation is that state as a quote yet we're mandating these drugs and not only are we forcing people to take one and we know they cause injury in the vaccine court has paid out four billion dollars and they there's some merely limited those judgments even HHS admits at the vaccine Quinet fewer than 1% of of injuries ever gets reported or awarded so you know make that four hundred billion we know they taught us a lot of injuries even if they cause someone injury how can you force a human being to take it against their will it makes no sense follow but the other thing is the Democrats will say if you ask them what is the most corrupt industry that's corrupted our political system they'll all say the same thing you know the oil industry is huge a pesticide injury but they'll say nobody has the influence of the pharmaceutical industry there are more pharmaceutical lobbyists on Capitol Hill than there are congressmen senators and Supreme Court justices combined and they put twice the money of the next biggest lobbyists would just oil and gas notoriously corrupt the four companies that make all 72 of the vaccines that are now mandated for our children every one of them is a convicted felon in the last ten years those four companies and Fe Merck Pfizer and Glaxo have paid thirty five billion dollars in penalties and damages and civil penalties for falsifying signs or the fronting regulators for are aligned doctors and manipulating a pralaya priming a blackmailing etc and for killing hundreds of thousands of people aiex along with merge prime Merck is the biggest magazine maker in our country it had another flagship product pounce like artists so vaccine but it was by ox Vioxx killed between a hundred and twenty thousand five hundred thousand Americans and in between 2002 and 2007 2006 and it was a it was a pill at Merck marketed as a headache Hilton birth new cause heart attacks how did it know it into it from its clinical data because it killed a lot of people during the clinical trials and mercs when we sued murdered there we got documents that were these flowcharts from their from their bean counters that's and we are gonna kill a certain amount number people we will still make more money even if we have to pay damages all the people we kill so we should go ahead this you know which is is justified Lee more morally just finally if you tell the people when you take this bill for your headache or your arthritis it may kill you and your okay because she warned him American on it he hid that fact and most of the people who died probably if they knew this could have killed him from a heart attack it probably would have taken an aspirin Merck didn't give him that choice it lied to them or our we doesn't it require a kind of cognitive dissonance to believe that the company that would kill half a million people to make a buck on Vioxx suddenly has found Jesus when it comes to vaccines which by the way is the only place they can never get God because in all of those other drugs that they uncaught for the way they got caught was that private attorneys plaintiffs attorneys representing injured clients sued the company Murchison ophea Wyeth whatever flies or whatever and in the course of discovery came across documents that showed criminal behavior he took those documents they brought them down to the US Attorney's Office and they said to the US Attorney you need to prosecute these this company for criminal acts that's not they got busted well that will never happen with vaccines because there are no losses there is no liability they can do anything they want to you and there are no consequences and by the way it's not only that there are no consequences there are good consequences for them from injury because this explosion and chronic disease epidemics has made those companies the richest companies in the world oh the same companies that are selling you that measles drug are now so and they and the hepatitis B in the DTaP and they have vaccines and that vaccine is giving you seizures or epilepsy or autism or food allergies or asthma that same company is now stopping your child who is sick for life yeah buter all inhalers Cobin inhalers the adderall ritalin the concern they any seizure medication the diabetes drugs the rheumatoid arthritis drugs these companies are making 50 billion dollars a year selling vaccines mandatory vaccines and then they're making 500 billion dollars a year selling the treatments the chronic diseases that are being caused by those vaccines there is not only no incentive for them to make it safe there's actually to make those vaccines as dangerous as possible they have monopoly control there's no competition everybody's told you take this Mercs hepatitis B shot you take Burke's MMR there is no other MMR to take let me ask you this you said your party them adjust for full disclosure you're still a Democrat you haven't left the party I'm still a Democrat really angry about this why did the one party that has this wrong is the Democratic Party when they we have in a Reagan signed the law into it and I'm not blaming Reagan you know because I think Reagan was probably trying to do something good leave that this law would somehow make it easier for people to recover injuries from injuries quickly and that they would keep people from getting sick they didn't know what I know today so when we had the Supreme Court case which you know extended the liability complete blanket immunity for all product defect claims to these companies it was the Republicans on the Supreme Court that voted to do that it was that Democrats particularly URI ated this ad saying this is you are unleashing what what's happened in on Capitol Hill and in Congress the Republicans are as bad as the Democrats everybody's scared that's issue on the state legislatures Republicans have been fantastic and they are the ones that the pharmaceutical companies once they get up into the higher office but our Pharma has more control you know we can't get the reason why I asked this to following reason so for me in my family I'm married to have three kids I was in the military so you know when you're in the military take a bunch of shots I took 11 shots when I joined the army and they said your government property something may happen but what we're testing I have offices nationwide and I talk to a lot of my executives and a lot of them are from Cal for me in California they're not comfortable about vaccines so they'll say I'm anti vaccine I'm Pro vaccine but there's a lot of people that are that are in the middle and the people I'd want to focus on is the folks that are willing to be educated to consider different positions I'm speaking of my wife and my wife last time we stayed up last night late watching all these different documentaries these articles and you know once you get into this conversation of anti vaccine or probe X and there's a lot you can read there's an enough content to go through and she says well baby this is starting to make sense and that's starting to make sense and what about this and it kept going and going you know to dos or in the middle when you talk about Democrats and I said you know why are Democrats not again I think a lot of people do have an issue with big pharma this is some stats that I pulled up is a big pharma that's advertised six billion dollars of TV last year when it comes out to a lobby and you were given a data they're number one number one was big pharma by a mile at 280 million insurance was second then electronic manufacturing then business associations then oil and gas then electronic than real estate and then I went a little bit deeper I said let me see what's happening with cost and you see that based on a study done by your an independent research group funded by the 4th health insurance companies for health insurance companies type 1 diabetes spent on average fifty seven hundred dollars per person on insulin in 2016 versus 2841 and 2012 that's nearly a hundred percent growth in only four years and 3,400 drugs boosted their pricing for the first six months of 2019 17% increase in a number of drug hikes from a year earlier and the average price hike is ten and a half percent that's five times inflation so when I watch debates you don't see the left and the right being true off when it comes down to a big farm abusing them so who is holding them accountable to be able to constantly move one out the first thing you said is really kind of ruin the problem which is I think was 1996 FDA adopted a new rule it was in this country for pharmaceutical companies to advertise drugs direct-to-consumer in other words to advertise on TV and uh and then FDA changed that rule so there's only two countries in the world that allow ARMA civico companies to advertise on eBay and New Zealand is one and what are the others we have as a result of that we get the highest drug prices I think 9 out of every 10 hours in the world and on pharmaceutical drugs is spent in this country so we're you know we it's not a good thing for Public Health and by the way the third leading cause of death in this country is pharmaceutical drugs okay healthier we have the most aggressive vaccine schedule in the world in this country and we have the worst health and our children can adults oh we have worse infant mortality we have if you look at any of the metrics you as I think it's 72 in infant mortality in the world where around Syria and Costa Rica oh I was a kid we were number one on all of those we were the best with the healthiest people in the world the best health care system today we you know we're paying the most money for the worst outcomes a lot of that is because a pharmaceutical advertisements on and I don't do they advertise on TV but they control content oh you know Anderson Cooper is sponsored by Pfizer Erin Burnett is sponsored by Pfizer NBC Nightly News is sponsored by Merck and Roger Ailes told them they like you know Roger Ailes I knew very well it was a founder Fox's I didn't agree with him politically but we were friends we spent a couple of months the other 1/10 I was 18 years old and Africa I had this you know good relationship with him and he understood the issue of vaccine injury from me he had a personal experience with back injury we're a kid who was close to him was injured and so he knew it was true and we have made out make a film documentary about it a couple of years before he died when he was still at the height of his powers and I asked him you know can I come on I don't want to play it on Fox I wanted to come on fox and talk about it he said I can't let you do that he said in fact if any of my house allowed you on their show I have to fire I didn't I would get a call from Rupert within 10 minutes Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox also owns one of the biggest vaccine companies in the world and has been one of the big promoters of it but Roger told me and he said he said during non-election years there in certain parts of the air 70% of our advertising revenue for evening news shows is coming from Pharma and and he said typically there's about 22 ads on an evening news and 17 of those are pharmaceutical s that's why you see this these aggressive promotion some vaccines all the time you're you're constantly being told it's flu season get your vaccine because they're selling the products not just during the advertising section of the show but they're selling the products during the entire show and yeah your measles and then you know there's inflating they terror of flu the terror of measles the terror of you know coronavirus which are constant themes which bring them in viewers could also sell medical products which is what their advertisers are trying to sell and those companies you know the CNN and and those other companies are going to underly compromise they're not asking the questions of government officials that they need to be asking and they're getting you know they're bowing down and genuflecting to anthony pouchy as a very well document and very checkered history of telling the truth of not telling the truth of being of abusing his power and you know resulting and really sinister things like hiding the leukemia virus is known to be in three of our large vaccines that we know causes cancer and he's hidden that from the American people he fired the number one scientist at NIH for her study showed and those magazines were contaminated and he he also he was Judy makeupit's who worked for the agency was on the team that identified the HIV vaccine HIV virus and connected it to AIDS and he kept that secret for six months oh then he could get one of his cronies to make the publication but that resulted in many many people getting it it's because the test was delayed by six months those things are you know are really black spots on Tony ouchies record and to turn our entire nation over to Tony Falchi with this unquestioned reverence and the constant you know Jenny black she - um I think it's something that is not healthy for our country and it's really kind of sickening to see to watch the news division these people are supposed to be reporters doing the exact same thing that they did during the Iraq war which is that you know what reporters are not supposed to take the word of government officials my father told me when I was a kid people in power lie the job of reporter is constant skepticism constant scrutiny and difficult questions Wow yeah I have the article right here where you set up Robert F Kennedy jr. Warren's Anthony Falchi is a fraud and that's poison an entire generation of Americans this was just 10 days ago April 20th so let's just say you were a reporter say Robert F Kennedy jr. instead of wanting to go into environment environmental law you have a conversation and you decide you know I think I want to go be a reporter if you're a reporter today if you're reported today and you're interviewing dr. Anthony Falchi what questions would you be asking I would be saying I mean number one why are we skipping animal studies with these vaccines we know the history of the corona virus vaccine on a virus vaccines in the past have shown themselves to be very very dangerous vaccines very volatile vaccines and I'll explain to you why that so in 2002 beginning in 2002 there were three SARS epidemics and these are ours is a corona virus and what the first of those was a natural occurring corona virus that jumped from bats in China to human beings the second two were lab-created karana virus vaccine but the corona virus is an escape from the lab and caused these epidemics that's not controversial and everybody you know agrees with that but it was deep concern about the transmissibility and the virulence of corona virus and its capacity to jump from animals to human bait so all the major nations Western nations and China got together in the between 2006 to 2012 to create corona virus vaccines it created about 30 vaccines and they chose the 4 most promising on this was a consortium of the best scientists neurologists and knowledge in the world they gave those four magazines to ferrets and parents are the closest analogy when it comes to up at rest or infections to human beings they're heavily utilized to study corona virus Ferris had a an excellent immune response to the vaccine meaning they develop at any parties and that's the metric that FDA uses on it licensed the vaccine it just looks and says is it producing anybody vaccines are never tested in the field patch nobody ever gives a 5,000 people a vaccine and 5,000 people no vaccine and then sends them out and sees what happens that's not how they get licensed they get licensed by you showing that they can produce anybody's the presumption is that anybody will defend you against future attacks by God by that virus and so make he the ferrets amount looked really good in anybody responds and they thought they had four winners here a button and something really frightening happened when those ferrets were exposed to the wild virus they horrible inflammation throughout all the organs on their bodies and they died particularly in their lungs and they died and then those scientists remembered that the same thing that happened when they had tried rs8 vaccine in the 1960s on children and RSV was very similar to Quranic virus upper respiratory infection and they had given it to about they skipped animal studies they gave it to 35 kids and it was an excellent provokes excellently in response but then when those kids were exposed to the wild virus they begin horribly sick and two of them died and they immediately discontinued that study I wasn't scandal everybody remembered it and they were in 2012 they were testing all of these vaccines they sent themselves on ferrets they said this is what happened to those children we tried it out and they developed anybody responsible then they had what we call paradoxical immune enhancement when they were exposed to the real virus instead of instead of protecting against it it actually enhanced it made it much more deadly man they connected it in 2014 to the dengue vaccine which was one of Tony found cheese vaccines which had a lot of those same red flags during the clinical trials they gave it to the Filipinos anyway Philippines gave it to hundreds of kids the kids were great great immune response and then when they're exposed to wildfire as they died 600 of them died the Philippine government today is prosecuted criminally putting people in jail for that because they knew it they knew something bad was from the clinical trials and so the this is something that is a unique peculiarities of coronavirus it's puzzling that Tony found his own vaccine the Moderne vaccine which he you know is its agency owns 50% of that vaccine and they went right to human testing without testing my animals and that just seems almost criminally irresponsible and he's allowing the same thing I would ask him knowing that history and by the way it's not just me saying this all the people who have criticized me for my stance and magazines for many years the leaders like Peter Hotez all often and Ian Lipkin are all saying the same thing that I'm saying to you right now you have to be really really careful with the government virus vaccine reason is that vaccines develop a immune response but they felt different kind there are two different kinds of antibodies this is what they found out from this process there's neutralizing antibodies which you want them your body to produce and that guard you against the disease those are good antibodies they also produce a specific species of antibodies called a blinding antibiotics and those are the ones that provoke an enhanced immune response once you're exposed to vaccine and you have to figure out you know which one of those you're actually producing and it's unclear that they're not doing that in this case the other thing that they're not doing is they're not using placebo testing which means nobody will ever know what the risk profile is for those products if you don't test against placebo you're you don't know whether the people who became ill and at coba with that receive the vaccine became ill because of the vaccine or just coincidental there's no way to know and so they'll even recorded and it if it immediately creates opportunities for bias for corruption and for cheating if you do not do splits Ebola and that's why the World Health Organization CDC FDA and IH everybody says if you don't use a placebo it's not science it's marketing and that's what they're doing they're doing all of these tests without using placebo I would say to Anthony ouchy well why aren't you using a placebo group are you scared about what is going to be shown about safety if you actually use a treatment see buckram it's completely irresponsible you know what when you look at the data and the media so a proven rating of Falchi against Trump and he constantly showed that that America Trump's foutch trust Falchi more than Trump right now behind closed doors what is the motivation of foul Chi right you know you have a lot of folks who are watching saying this man seems like a reasonable guy so G has a bias towards vaccines and he owns the vaccine so he has he literally owns vaccine the only profit motivation is purely probably III think it's power and I think the same is true the case both some actually stand to make huge amounts of money you know potentially millions millions I don't believe you know it's very hard to look into another man's brain and I try not to do that but just looking at them I really believe that their motivation is more about power and there is no more our composition than being a health official because you can literally dictator I mean at this point Tony foutch he has powers that no American president has ever had he's you know telling people in California you can't go to the beach you can't go in the ocean you can't go shop your kids can't go to school you have to stay in your house you're gonna you know the two days ago they were getting thousand dollar tickets to people who were swimming in the ocean and surfing no presidents ever had that kind of power before but today ouchy who's very very close partners with gates in America and there what they're saying if you listen carefully what they're saying is you all are are gonna stay in the house until we have a vaccine it's not gonna be safe to come out and that is a tremendous power to tell people they have to wait and do that until you don't think out you know what I think there is a struggle between two different ways to handle this quarantine and nobody everybody saying listen to the scientists but there's a flaw there which is the scientists can tell you maybe can model they can model how many people are gonna die from coronavirus using different scenarios you know if you all go back to work tomorrow here's how many people died if we all say you act up for six months here's how many people and they can do that probably pretty well people are saying listen to the scientists but there's something that is not being modeled here which is something that those scientists have no expertise on which happen how many people are being killed by the quarantine there's really good data and is solid from dozens and dozens of studies that show that number one isolation kills lots of people kills people through a depression and it kills people through mistakes it kills people from not getting in a routine medical care it kills people a lot of different ways but also it unemployment kills people so there's a really good 1982 book this is considered an authoritative and that book did all of the modeling on you know on historical unemployment rates and this was a long time ago so our population is what they book found is that for every point in unemployment if there's 37,000 people died 9,000 people die from heart attacks I know other people die from suicides all these different reasons that they die and then 3,000 333 people go to prison everyone point at an extra 40,000 people end up in mental institutions oh we're looking at unemployment rates from this quarantine that are going to exceed 35 percent in other words the increase as one from three point five percent and we'll go to 35 percent you multiply 37,000 by 30 and you're looking at over a million people about 1.1 million people who could die from the quarantine just from that metric then there's a lot of other metrics for example what you know we are hurting the or disrupting the food the supply chains for foods and medicines so people are not going to get their medicine people not going to get their foods this is nothing to do with unemployment people are also today are not seeing doctors for routine medications for routine treatment people who have cancer people have diabetes people have hypertension who are skipping doctor's appointments because of the quarantine all those people are also at risk and then there's the impacts on children going to school so there's a tremendous amount of impacts that have not been modeled and we want to have good public policy in this country you need to actually do a risk assessment and saying what are the full risk you know not with let's not just look at the quranic artist deaths let's look at that the dance i'm the alternative quran virus which is quarantine the swedes did this and they said it's not going to work and they looked at it and they you know the chief epidemiologists of sweden said we're going to go back to work and when I could have many of these restrictions on on you know social distancing etc we're gonna protect the elderly and this is one you know I think we all thought was gonna happen we went quarantine for a couple of weeks and so hospitals could gear up till they could get the beds they could get the ventilators the testing kits they could get the drugs like various therapeutic s-- the IV vitamin C treatment chloroquine or whatever and then we would have an avalanche where all the young people who are in good condition and we're not very vulnerable this would come out and resume life as usual go to work go to play the we would keep isolated people have chronic health conditions and seniors elderly because they're vulnerable those people if you can show that you have a chronic caliper and we would pay their paychecks and take care of them and keep them isolated until the disease runs through the population and we develop accurate immunity and then they're protected by that and that and then also you know at that time we have better therapeutics they can really treat this disease and that would be a plan that would would not you know bankrupt generations of Americans and that's what they're doing in Sweden and what they say in Sweden is yes we do have a spike and death rates compared to Norway which is quarantine but a year from now we're gonna have everybody's gonna have the same right Italy view as you know Sweden everywhere it's gonna have their year from now that all of the same death rate we will still have economy and you all and I think that's a risk you know that that is not being assessed and you know there's this reference given to scientists with actually answering the question is is this scientist equipped to actually give us advice on this issue or should we limit his advice as to what his expertise is tell me found she has zero training and zero capacity and has probably never had a single study about the cost of unemployment on public health he knows about virology and immunology he doesn't know anything about these other impacts why is he calling the shots why is he calling the shots well I you know I think that is a combination of things and some of it a lot of it has to do with the the incapacity the the acquired incapacity of Anderson Cooper and CNN to scrutinise be Orthodox ease of the pharmaceutical and medical cartels they will not ask the questions and you know if Tony said you tell them also a flu shot is good for you it's proven to work they will believe that they won't actually look at the science and you know the Cochrane Collaboration this is the ultimate arbiter on science the Cochrane Collaboration has looked at every published food study and what they've said is the flu vaccine does not work it does not prevent deaths in the elderly it actually enhances it makes you more vulnerable to on flu infections every year let me tell you this patching every year CNN releases flu death data and that data is not real data it's fake data so and I'll tell you what they do the CDC actually does very good gathering and it assembles the data on American health and death certificates and an index called the mortality and morbidity data and if you go to the mortality and morbidity data you can see how many flu does actually happen in America nobody does that and instead CNN reports every year at the flu deaths in this country were between 60,000 90 and they'll say it's worse than ever it could be 95,000 deaths this year I'm Flo take your flu shot but if you go around and ask people do you actually know anybody has never died of a Flo those people tell you know if 95 thousand people were dying we all know people who die in the flow the truth is at the year they said 95,000 which was two years ago there were 2,000 people who died the average death rate for the flow over the past 20 years around a thousand people a year and what they do is they conflate the mortality morbidity data for pneumonia with the flow and Moe's only 7 percent of pneumonia cases are actually caused by the flow of pneumonia deaths the rest of them are non flu or respiratory infections so CNN just about every year and I don't think Sanjay Gupta Anderson Cooper actually what a line buddy is part of their Gestalt there you know there's most dangerous disease for somebody that's watching the same Robert why is your data right and not their data if you're saying only a thousand versus something different nobody you should trust me and nobody you should trust Anderson Cooper and nobody should trust honey vouching they should trust the science and what I'm using is not my data it's their data and you know any I've written a letter to Sanjay Gupta outlining all of the standard and a very polite civil letter but to saying you know Sanjay I'm are you a lot I know you're not deliberately doing this but you say these things every year and here's why each of them is wrong according this in it and now everything I say on my Instagram page every single statement is sourced and cited you can't do it on Instagram because Instagram doesn't let you legs oh I always probably should urge us on Instagram because that's kind of my you know best I always usually within 24 hours reprinted on children's health defense webs with all the sites and with all the sourcing on say if I said something that was untrue people would be all over me if I you know my enemies are watching everything that I say pharmaceutical industry watching everything they'd say so I am very very careful any public statement that I make is source and you know if I if I made a mistake which I'm sure at some point it's possible for me to do somebody told me in a manner of the second immediately we don't you know doctors scientists you know we really are are careful about making sure everything is sourced to peer review or to a government database who's on your side by the way because your position I mean I I saw the letter your family wrote to you this was about a year ago and you know RFK is our brother and uncle he's tragically wrong about vaccines we love RFK but he's part of the misinformation campaign that's heartbreaking and deadly consequences whose on you because when you're talking if somebody's listening that's in the middle not big person that's on a big pharma side say they're CNN Cooper Gupta or not somebody that's on the other side but somebody that says a lot of this stuff is saying makes a lot of sense who else is on your side that's a big name and a credible source you know a lot of doctors nurses and their household names are people top scientists I just called Peter a a B has hundreds hundreds of peer-reviewed publications and he was always against us until he recently did a study on the DTV and showed and it's killing more people than the area Tennyson pertussis and that girls who get the magazine are ten times more likely to die than people who don't get the vaccine and so and that brought him of the data brought him over so we have you know there are many many doctors but they don't they don't want to put their heads off because their careers are destroyed so I just get their careers destroyed journalists lose their careers people this isn't you know this is a career killer the reason I'm you know my name is prominent is because I you know I have a track record and I'm a litigator I argued all these important cases I was on trial teams in come on santo cases on the case income mark ruffalo just will be about one of my cases which was the which was the dupont case West Virginia and you know I've been involved my side helps hundreds of groups I have a track record I have friends resilience because of that and because of my family but otherwise the industry has spent fifteen years you know battering that decision and I've lost the one friendships and I've lost a lot of business relationships and other relationships and credibility with people who just believe Oh never hear my arguments they never hear them all they hear is he's an auntie back sir and they said well that's wrong and you know my family even those three members of my family who wrote that article I have a big family I have supporters in the family too but the three members who wrote that article accused me of being an auntie back sir oh I'm not I've never said anything any vaccine I'm not what I've said is a vaccine should be safe and effective and that they shouldn't be mandated in any case and but if you can make a vaccine that is proven to be safe and proven to be effective I wouldn't be against it but let's do let's walk through the proof oh you know if there's I've spent 37 years trying to get mercury out of fish nobody calls me any fish I spent 37 years trying to get pesticides out of food nobody calls me any food I spent 30 years trying to get to improve fuel efficiency or get carbon fuel out of automobiles I you know my partnership was the biggest investor in Tesla and I was part of a partnership that built the two biggest solar plants in our country I want to get I want to get carbon energy system nobody calls me anti energy I'm not any vaccine I just want say good science robust science independent regulators and and safety oh I've never said I was any vaccine people call me that because it's a way of marginalizing me it's a way of making people think I'm a crackpot you know and keeping me silent and censoring me because you know he didn't in facts he's dangerous don't let people hear him because it will spread like a virus and so they keep me off a TV they keep me off of social media they keep me out of the newspapers and it allows everybody including three members of my family to say you know we don't like what he says good guys but they heard what I said do you guys still do family reunions where everybody gets tired you know what my parents encouraged us every night to get in arguments and that's what we do or is it one discussion the dinner table and we you know there would be topics and we would argue about them I remember my father hey you know should we get out of Vietnam is it good to take LSD God exists you know all these things that would throw them out and then we would argue about that name with you know coaches on our Argos my grandfather is the same thing to his kids he'd say you know should we be and he should we join war in Spain fascism good for Italy you know whatever and make us argument and encourage us to take extreme points of view and talk about so like somebody in my family argues against my position is not troublesome and in no way relationship I understand you know we need to Beit that's what we ought to be doing we ought to be debating this everybody should and we should be able to do it without you know without vitriol and without anger I posted something on Twitter earlier and this the question I asked I said what topic generally creates the most heated debates between you and your family I just curious you know what people gonna say right and they said you know pro-life pro-choice you know who's the greatest of all time Michael Jordan or LeBron some of them with sports but the most the most comments here the one that came up the most was vaccine vaccine is the one that creates the most heated debate amongst people why do you think that is well it's clear on why it is because we're doing something that we've never done before we're telling people you have to take this medication and we're taking doctors who you know at this sacred for 2,000 years since Epocrates had a sacred relationship with the patient where that doctor is treating you and owes you is complete Allegiance is silence is confidentiality his best about your condition and is trying to heal you we've now profoundly and dramatically changed the role of the doctor and the doctor is now the agent of state power and state policy and he's saying even though you're a completely healthy kid I'm gonna give you a risky medication so that you can protect somebody else allegedly you know which basically which by the way that ain't true you're much more likely to get chickenpox from a vaccinated person or measles and you are from an unvaccinated person much more likely you're much more likely to get polio from the vaccinated personated 70% of the polio in the world is vaccine strain that things you got it from a vaccinated person oh that is a mythology that unpacks and people are dangerous is the fact if you look at thee the manufacturers answered for chickenpox it says on the manufacturers insert after you receive this vaccine do not be in proximity of pregnant women are immunocompromised people for six weeks nobody ever does that they go to back to school the next day and they spread the chickenpox and you know pertussis you become an asymptomatic carrier you're spreading pertussis it whereas if you actually were on vac centered and you've got pertussis you would know it you can whooping cough and you'd say ah me you wouldn't be spending it your the pertussis vaccine you got it well you don't know you got it it's bigger spreading it to other people and and some vaccines actually more likely to spread disease than if you're unvaccinated 1961 your uncle president john f kennedy urged 80 million Americans including almost 5 million children who had not been vaccinated for polio to receive the Salk vaccine which he called the miraculous drug do you think he would have the same position today as he did in 1961 you know I don't want to speak to me I'll go on for my uncle of course he he was for that and we we only had two backs and you know I got the Palio salt vaccine we didn't know any of the problems with vaccines we didn't have you know most of the vaccines today olia was a health care crisis most of the vaccines when they put all these vaccines on a schedule almost none of them were hurt dangerous diseases casually contagious diseases now we're gonna spread why don't we need to happen time speed backs hepatitis B vaccine is given every job the day they're born and the only way you can get from your mom if she has it when you're both being born but every mother is tested in every hospital in every state in this country so that's a very small amount of kids and they you can give them the vaccine the only other way you get that is B is from is from sex you know or from you know unprotected sex that little child is it zero risk why are we giving a magazine afroditi speed magazine was manufactured by Merck or male homosexuals because they were having and and for heroin addicts and prostitutes and that's it that's why they developed it and guess what happened none of those people use the vaccine it couldn't sell any of them oh they went back Merck went back to C D City and said we're not selling this product it's lost leader for us order it give it to children and CDC does whatever Merck tells them they ordered it for every child out vaccine only lasts two years so that child is not gonna sleep with a prostitute between the day they're born in the day they're two years old or the day they're ten and they're given five of those vaccines because they only last two years the only reason for that vaccine the only reason is to enrich that company and it kills lots and lots and lots of kids every year that's one if there's many other vaccines that are clearly killing today more children than they're saving another one of those would be the rotavirus vaccine again was gone on the body you know did did you grow up with a great fear of rotavirus no no of course not it wasn't a threatening disease you know art you know our generation or any generation it's not a threatening there are more rotavirus cases today which is you know a couple hundred deaths a year and there were before the run of virus vaccine and the rotavirus vaccine contains a port virus a pig virus because it's made on pig tissue and we know causes cancer and behavioral problems in pigs why would we give that why don't we take the risk and give that vaccine do every American child they have no idea whether it's causing those cancers and in kids and if you go through these vaccines one at a time and you say do we really need this vaccine most um is oh we don't in prior to eighty five almost non-existent eighty percent of the vaccines we have we're after eighty five and there weren't huge you know epidemics of infectious diseases killing Americans at that time even measles measles mortalities and 99 percent disappeared prior to the introduction of the vaccine in 63 there are only four hundred kids who died of measles in a population of 200 million Americans they were almost all black children the Mississippi Delta we're actually dying of malnutrition and this was before the poverty programs and you know the likelihood is easily mortalities would have disappeared altogether now measles is gonna come back and cause it's a lot of problems because the vaccine is it is doing things it's forcing these those two older populations and much younger populations who should not be getting measles there's there's data saying that measles is back on increase 110,000 people are now dying from measles every year matter of fact that's in the same letter that your family wrote but you know this leads me to something here right now because world of organs the people who are now getting measles in California you're not adults you're not supposed to get measles world how's that we're gonna sage and little babies are now when they're you know two weeks old and they doesn't give you that and they're too young to get the vaccine a lot of those kids are going to end up dying the measles and they world health day I wish you just read is there's a lot of scams in collecting that data and the kids were who died of measles today are severely malnourished kids in Africa and you know the problem is is nourishment measles disappear in this country when we started having good sanitation good nutrition you know again that's not me saying CDC did a major study on this mythology vaccines eradicated all these mortalities for infectious diseases ere conclusion from that which is on my Instagram anybody can read their study with a quote on Hopkins at CDC thus vaccination almost nothing to do with the disappearance of these mortalities in the first half of the 20th century I've seen didn't do it it was nutrition it was sanitation was good food electric refrigeration um chlorinated water and electricity and that's what eradicated disease that's why this disease now you see World Health Organization also says there because of vaccines that prevents 6 million deaths per year so if there's no there's really no good way to to act to ascertain were to judge that data you know there's not they can't point to a country for example they'll say the DPT vaccine saves millions for lives and is their most popular vaccine it's the most popular vaccine the world they're giving to every kid Africa and they engage national compliance with disease with with vaccine mandates buyback vaccine a World Health Organization funds most of the ministries of health for all these African countries and it funds their HIV program so those countries are very organization has a dictatorial control over those countries it can tell them you must take this vaccine and we're not going to give you aids money and so they do it so they all take the DPT vaccine and nobody's ever really looked to see whether the DBT vaccine is actually saving lives Oh in 2017 the Danish government like the best scientist in the world in fact that one of the world's biggest vaccine companies at the cerumen stupid put together study they brought together the best scientists in the world and they looked at populations in the nation of Guinea Bissau or half the kids were vaccinated before between two and five months of age and half or so they had a perfect natural experiment randomized populations half contacts a half accent and they looked at the health impacts what they found when they F 30 years of data they found that the vaccine you are ten times more likely died if you got the vaccine than if you didn't Oh WH o the authors that Sonny I've been screaming at the rooftops that WH oh you got to stop using this vaccine you got to reassess this WH o is still going around claiming it saves lives it's a lie it's a provable lie that study by the way any of your listeners can look it up and I encourage you to do so it's called morganson mor g en sen at all other words and the team on 2017 and made the journal is called the e biopharma and you know so that the idea that they're saving six million live data that supports that which one of those organizations do do you give a do do you give a lot of credibility but here's the problem you know i'm not against the agencies i you know my whole life has been trying to you know build agencies in assuring integrity in them but all those agencies are what we call captive agencies they are run by the industry eh-oh gets half of its budget on pharmaceutical company is its budget from the cdc and a forty five percent of its budget on vaccines so you know we shouldn't have that situation those company should not be taking any money from the industries they're supposed to regulate and because of that they are owned by those industries any good science good policy good regulation robert you know the topic of autism obviously has a lot to do with vaccine and it's it's part of this entire conversation that we're having have scientists and proper research being able to prove what causes autism well listen the the the answer to that is that those studies have not systematically been done there are many many studies that link autism taxes we have listed on our website several hundred studies saying suggesting in various ways but not only do vaccines cause autism but actually looking at the specific mechanisms I wish they cause I don't think there's any scientific question that vaccines cause autism if you actually read this the problem is CDC has has has jinda 17 studies all of those studies have flaws and those studies are all logical studies in their populations those studies are you know when they looked at big populations they said we couldn't find a lake here but the problem is they were all done by pharmaceutical industry scientists none of them did and they all either look at one vaccine the MMR which is given when the children are quite old and then to find aerosol so that's the only vaccine one vaccine has ever been studied and it's not the biggest suspect so the the suspects are the five vaccines that are given during the study and the Institute of Medicine which is the ultimate arbiter of vaccine science but you don't have to listen to Bobby Kennedy Institute of Medicine is looks over the shoulder in CDC and HHS and tells them whether they actually have done the studies that are necessary the IOM looked at all the vaccine studies that have been done in 91 and 94 in 2011 and in 2014 and what they said in every one of those findings is they said CDC has never done the studies that they've scolded they've chided if they have pleaded and CDC has refused to do those oh what I'm saying CDC does not have those you can make up your own very very clear the currents so what are these Institute of Medicine has said those fees are no good so what they do is they take the tack of saying something that's so absurd it's laughable they say there is no autism that people are just noticing odd you know anybody I mean I grew up we never saw kids at work actually like what you see today here's the real the real rebuttal to that claim and autism were just doing better diagnosis today if that were true and where are all the 66 year old men with fought it with full-blown autism in my entire life having worked unless they accompanied retardant I mean words in Spanish Olympics I have never seen somebody my age with full-blown was a man talking at the mall wearing diapers wearing a helmet head-banging nonverbal on toilet-trained stimming tall walking you know sit I've never seen it in my life and yet you know it's 134 kids am I in my children's generation in the vaccine generation and so the question is you cannot credibly say it's always been with us because if it's always been with us it would still be here in my generation and they've been saying that since 2004 and yet even since 2004 it's gone up six or seven hundred percent oh it's still climbing and so it's it's completely incredible and what they really try to do is avoid having a conversation nobody's gonna have this debate nobody's gonna sit down and argue to my face also there's a lot of science UC Davis did a study there's there's dozens of saying no it's real it's happening it's affecting kids is not affecting adults and you know if a debate could be set up who'd be the main prominent voice for you to debate against there's a lot of academics people like Ian Lipkin at Columbia um Peter Hotez at the University in Texas who and these are people who have thrust themselves to the forefront of defending vaccines Paul Offit Children's Hospital Philadelphia no these are vaccine developers they're people or at the forefront there are people who have deliberately they're the ones who go on TV on CNN go on Fox go on you know write articles from the New York Times a thrust themselves to the forefront of this none of them will debate me they're all terrified hey Wilma and it's not because I'm a great debater they know that the science speaks for itself and I do know the science and I know it backward I know it in many cases better than they do because I actually am looking at it critically and I've in the studies they cite I know if anybody else tries to debate me like for example several months ago the Connecticut State Legislature was considering a bill to repeal vaccine exemptions and they asked me to come to Connecticut and debate do it debate and then they try to stack the debate against me so they put five you know neurologists and immunologist to come to that debate I was going to make each one oh we stack against me but I was I was okay with those odds because I know I'm gonna win that debate anyway I flew across the country well if we can coordinated you're open to it okay on our end we'll see what we can if we can get creative there by the way just just for education purposes what's the difference between the 1986 Act when they came out with the National childhood vaccine injury Act versus the 2011 brasov it's versus L Wyatt the Bruce Lewis case was interpreting the Act the Act said you have to go actually Bruce which case really killed us and killed people vaccine engine we're 5,400 people who's and my kid got autism from a vaccine and they all descended on the vaccine court at once the Act set up same court where you're not suing the company that entered you you're sewing your petitioning the United States government for redress does a vaccine act recognize vaccines cannot be safely may unavoidably unsafe that's the quote and that we have to therefore people get injured by vaccines by mandatory vaccines are are making a sacrifice for the nation they should be fairly compensated and so they set up a vaccine Court and the Supreme Court the way the act was set up is that you could or the vaccine Court get your conversation but if you didn't like the settlement you could withdraw and you could go to a regular court and so you know we weren't completely foreclosed people who were injured could still get redress Supreme Court it was this wacky decision that said that if you do leave the vaccine corner and go to regular court they cannot give you they cannot give you an award for product liability in other words you can't sue them like you can't sue anybody else you know your duck your product was dangerous I do redress people you can't do that so you can sue them for fraud so basically throw us out of court we have no jury trial no trial most people are injured the vaccine court won't even hear their cases that's an interesting story it's the story of a little girl Hannah right I think it's a five year old Hannah was one of the stories that was brought up an appalling was an year-old who punches him from a vaccine and they problem was and a her father was a neurologist famous neurologist from Johns Hopkins and her mother was a nurse and a lawyer and this girl was a very gifted girl she exceeded all her miles summer she was right and they had lots of video I don't the day that she took that I was back to saying she got into her 36 months wellness visit we got a battery of vaccines and she lost her brain she went you know the lights went off they had before and after and they had professional doctors who had observed everything that happened and and they had to get rid and that was one of the bellwether cases so if if she the way that they decided this case back to these cases 5400 cases maxine corners they said I could try all will try six of them and if any of those six wins and we'll try them all and so they really were under pressure to get rid of all six of those unfortunately for them and pollux case was won and there was no way for them to win it so what they did was they secretly went into a back room paid 20 million dollars to her family and said keep your mouth shut we're gonna seal this case we're gonna drop it from the bellwether cases and that's how they get rotted all those people out of there you know compensation in vaccine court that proven apparent oh yeah the parents are you know we're very very troubled but they kind of had to do what was right for their daughter and their daughter really needed lifetime care and the parents immediately took the deal but that immediately petition to the court or a for a full disclosure they filed a motion for full transparency of that because they thought they get a chance to even if they sign is he like they wouldn't talk about it in the end their friends and their lives you know fighting for these other children very very interesting I didn't know about the $20,000,000 and respected a family - wanting to make it public so everybody knew by the way Bill Gates you know you you had a post that you put it put on Instagram I got a lot of comments there were a lot of things you said about him when I bring up Bill Gates and a lot of conversations most people will say good man doing good things most of them will bring up the Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation and you know you hear Melinda Gates talking about the fact that we're getting closer to wiping several deadly diseases off the face of the planet but we couldn't we could easily blow it I think in an article she talked about how when they started in 2000 they're putting only 50 billion dollars or money into it and polio is gone from 350,000 cases in 88 to 2017 having only 22 and 2018 being only 29 what is your opinion of the global vaccine action plan that millon bill and melinda gates foundation is financially backing in and again i don't want to read the entire Instagram post but what is your thoughts and opinions on Bill and Melinda Gates I mean you know the details as it turns out that boy vaccine which they actually cause polio the world in places where [Music] almost and it's I'm sure when Bill Gates will try to do at one point is to blame it on any boxers buddy even whu-oh it fits 70% of the polio today on earth coming from Jace's vaccine it was a bad idea the vaccine was bay is badly flawed and the way that they used it was hair break they're giving kids 50 polio inoculations or immunizations before age five and those kids are the polio is coming out in their fecal materials oh it spreads the disease and and that's what they did in the Congo but you can you know wait when you look when people in get polio in public health you don't look at well they can tell whether that polio is wild polio its vaccine boy 70% of the cases now on earth at least our vaccine polio and that means gates the vaccine you know you're asking me kind of a broader question about what is I think that Gates is well intended the way that you know missionaries who brought small box and a Indians were well intended I think he also he believes that he is somehow ordained by you know divinely to bring salvation to the world through technology I think that notion is probably fortified I his experience with Microsoft where he really did change humanity and the planet the way that we you know communicate with each other and he really sees a vaccine or technology in general out of salvation and I think that is given him a blindness and statisticians call that have a name for that blindness it's called confirmation bias or he will he will see and incorporate and integrate data and supports his worldview and he refused to see data that don't like like the DTD study I was telling you about I'm morganson how can he continue to insist an African children get that shot when he knows it's probably killing Billy kids and yet there's a hard added as it is I don't think it's you know saying I'm gonna knock admit a mistake I'm gonna kill millions African children but I think it's that I'm not gonna look at the possibility that this could have been an error I'm gonna dig my heels in it and you know the same thing happened in India he was thrown out of India because of an experiment that he did on 26,000 illiterate tribal girls northern territories we tested a very very dangerous HPV vaccine on them and I think 2600 either lost their capacity to have children or have horrendous diseases and when the Indian government went in there horrified had you know bullied these families into designing you know confirmation agreements on that and they were illiterate they didn't understand consent agreements I don't care the kids they injured or anything like that so I mean it's similar scandal with a couple of malaria vaccines that they experimented they did these really horrendous Africa I think he believes it's okay because he believes so strongly the vaccine is gonna save people that you know the people that he experiments on our collateral damage and that you know but it's kind of a it's a worrying posture you know somebody with that much power also believes that he is able to play with people's lives and he's willing to ignore data so I in his other fixations are GMO crops and and this is another problem with Gates is he tends in the nation an expose on this a couple of weeks ago that his personal investments and his Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation investments tend to be in companies benefit from his philanthropic activities oh he's very greatly early heavily invest in vaccine companies are making a killing for policy is that he is pushing he's very invested at Monsanto he's pushing GMO crops and chemical fertilizers all over Africa many places where there clearly inappropriate and he's very much invested in 5g which is kind of a sinister news you know putting a live satellite hundreds of satellites in orbit he's playing ten owns tens of thousands of bound antennae are not there if you know what he is one of his companies promising is that they will be able to do surveillance with one second delay on every corner of the earth literally every corner of the earth and he also so and 5g is not about helping you download your video game quickly now that's what they're telling you on these velocity ads you care if it takes you 20 seconds or 10 seconds to video really change your life is about surveillance and it's about data harvesting the biggest repository of the world it's data we now have a capacity by connecting all these devices it's called the connectedness of things you connect your Apple watch to the internet you connect your microwave oven you know it's a smart Mike when you connect your alexis which is listening to your conversations all day your serum which is listening to your cell phone which listen to your conversations you you can you know what your buying habits are you know your heart rate you know everything about you and all that information is data is characterizing archive is useful and saleable because it's telling these companies the behaviors that will trigger buying reactions by you you know specifically how to target you where to target you what time of the day what kind of music that you like what kind of what is going to be able to you and get your attention and get you to buy stuff and those algorithms are so powerful that they're almost irresistible and that's what he's harvesting so we did you know is he's gonna be able to look at through facial recognition have complete control of our society you know the other day there were surfers or um the police were down at Point M which is where I live and they were giving surfers thousand dollar tickets hey and so that's pretty offensive it you could say well that was just over reaction just appalling judgment by these police ticketing people from going in the ocean the sunshine where you're supposed to be and imagine if you don't need the police imagine if we live in a world where your movements are being tracked by satellites and by facial recognition and by a GPS and by on your car on your cell phones oh then every moment of day the authorities know where you are and corporations know where you part so when you go to the beach they don't have to arrest you they just send you a thousand dollar bill but not only send it to you they just take it directly out of your cryptocurrency you know pay check account and we're all being you know by this particularly this is training us with new kinds of behavior to do what we're told to accept this kind of surveillance to accept these constraints on our on our civil rights to allow the government to come in and tell us you stay at home you don't go to the beach you don't send your kids to school you don't leave your house and actually accept those kind of orders one of the companies he's got it many companies that are installing chips to carry around your medical records but they'll also be capable of of carrying around your other data so that if a cop pulls you over for speeding you can scan you and look at your criminal record locate your buying history see if you've been to a liquor store recently and you know that is a biometric subdermal sensor system so it will actually be able to sense brain waves and and body signals like heart rate etc and it will it will assign you tasks in other words you will get a message on your phone to do certain tasks and your task will be look at certain it appears on TV in 30 seconds listen to this music walk down this aisle in this grocery store then it will monitor your your honor your EEG your brainwaves your heart rate your adrenaline all this kind of stuff and if use that information to marketing companies and you then get paid for doing that task with cryptocurrency that goes directly into your account so you know these companies like Elon Musk who also controls all the satellites and gates putting us all half the people in this country made some of their living driving a car how they're going to give us you know is our lives cars and you're gonna have a lot of Americans or permanently unemployed and their one who you don't want these chips because you couldn't make money by doing these times by playing a video game or whatever and it's gonna it is basically a process of turning us all into production units all into slay enslaved consumers and you know with surveillance all the time yes another chip which turn off your ovaries and you know it I earnestly oh I'm not making this up in fact I'm going to publish on it in two days and you know all sores and everything else and so you can look for it on children's health defense and on my Instagram and you'll see that these things are real they're not just from some horrible nightmare they're real and they're happening now and this pandemic is allowing them to change our lives and change our country and and put us under you know into a permanent surveillance state what would you rank him as the most powerful man in the world uh he's he's the most powerful man Public Health because he is the 10% that they'll be all over for you know and so he has changed ohš used to do something that was really good it's just they understood that develop that disease is a is a symptom of poverty and that if you want to stop disease you you do development you do nutrition you do clean order you do sanitation that's what they were doing and gates came in there and said we don't want to do that you know we're gonna do a little of that we're going to shift everything toward magazines and so you know because he doesn't understand that good health comes from good immune system good nutrition good water clean water exercise you know wholesome lies he believes the only path the good house is inside syringe and so now half the WHS budget goes who is his pet polio eradication program which is spreading polio that's not a good thing for her anybody have you had a conversation with them have un mm no I never respectable contact have you you I know you went to the White House and you were getting ready to be part of some kind of a Trump's President's Committee have you been or my Christmas party and then President Trump on put a czar was a hand-picked Iser lobbyists in charge of HHS and we had these really good meetings during the first part of the administration but as soon as those guys came in they shut us down and they may not be a bad time for an open letter I may not be a bad time for an open letter from you this may not be a bad time for an open letter from you you know what's crazy is you sound like a libertarian you don't sound like a Democrat I mean you know I you know I definitely I've always been a free market in my whole environmental one I'm really for personal freedoms that's run for I'm not a libertarian because I don't believe in the Commons and you you do need government regulation in other words nobody ever builds a sewage treatment plans you know because they wanted to there's no money in building a sewage treatment plant there never will be and so you if you're going to pollute the publicly owned resources air water wildlife if you're a public land you need regulation in the comments there's actually an economic law called the tragedy the Commons that you know that lays that out it's all of our economic interests that catch the last fish in the ocean it's on in society's interest and the role of government is to make sure that doesn't happen to regulate the fishery what are you talking about private property I am a libertarian I believe in free market capitalism I believe that the market is the best way to end environmental pollution and all the lusion is about subsidies and that you know large powerful entity is using political clout to escape the discipline of the free market forces publics pay their costs of production I know and I speak about the environment to a group of Republicans I almost always get standing ovations because so aligned with you know I I think mainstream classical American markets work I think I would you know I think the framing would be very happy with the way that I talk ya know and I'm a product of Milton Friedman obviously you see them back here in the painting you sound like a lot of them by the way last couple minutes here before we wrap up I like to you said something here about your family rituals one of the things you said every night we were encouraged to argue and debate and constituted what were some of the Kennedy family rituals that you guys had I mean you know our family was really Catholic family we went to church when I was yeah I went to church at least I mean I went to church often times once or twice a day we said prayers before and after every meal we said a rosary sometimes three rosaries read the Bible every night and you know then we played a lot of sports a lot of outdoor activities and my father you know we're all scuba diving and doing water you know at a time when not pay people were doing those things you know I really did you spend a lot of time with your grandfather yeah I did what you remember about him because he's one of the most interesting characters when I was in a serious seven with Morgan Stanley Dean Witter and I took a Dearborne class to take my series seven they started teaching about SCC na you're his name came up Jose I mean I so I'm curious about his character how was he what do you remember about it you know he was I think the best thing you can say first of all a lot of people there's a lot of garbage nobody even made that claim until after 1964 my grandfather you know you've been through three separate Senate confirmations he was the first head of the SEC he was he and you know really with Rose out saving the Wall Street he was the ambassador or to Great Britain during World War two he was maritime condition and these were when he was a young man he was the youngest paying president in our country after he graduated he was he worked as a bank examiner for a couple of years and then he he took over a bank that was the target of a hostile takeover his father had been involved in and he went and he took hundreds of films after my uncle died there was you know to see I've written a book about the CIA's relationship with my family about it's 70 year battle with my family and there was a guy in the CIA whose job was it's absurd to think my grandfather had so many enemies including you know he was despised because he was the only guy from Wall Street ooh it supported Roosevelt if he had not been squeaky clean you would have been completely obliterated and those Senate confirmation hearings which were at least as vicious as they are today and he would never have gotten appointment to Great Britain if he'd been a bootlegger the head of the SEC he couldn't have done that in Roosevelt has them is there anything in your past you know would come back because I'm terrified of these earrings and my I have never done anything with Tarzan or injured my reputation because my children and his you know the best part I just oh we're just riding with him every morning you take us he was he was extremely punctual if you were one minute late he would be gone uh he would never wait for anybody and he would never keep anybody waiting and he would when we dinner is how we are the families all took turns on dinner at his house we all lived in one compound and he questioned had seen my grandmother would question my son it would make us look at maps on their wall and they'd say fine Karachi tell us for Zanzibar is they tell us they ask us about the roots of words they were Latin or Greek they would ask us to speak Spanish or French my grandmother would cut out would break down quotes or take clippings of the newspaper and she would pin them to earth letter and then she would take walks with us and pull the pins often ask us questions and we are constantly being quizzed by them and they were constantly asking us to argue to make our team instant you know to take positions on issues oh it's really it was a magical truth the fact that your grandfather sat down his son and says which one of you guys going to be a president first was no okay course not that's not the way that he talked what he tried to do is really instill and he said he hated harold laski who was a very famous communist all of his kids and then he he made sure that that they became they all became journalists first and so that they could tour the world if they could speak to people wherever he was there he was a cat or whatever he would always be talking to people and asking them about their lives and all my you know that generation was constantly interrogating people whether they were fish mongers or a commercial fish and or cab drivers you know they is that somebody they would be asking questions my grandfather you know certainly he grew up in a political family his his father was a state senator and he was a political leader very respected politically very honest grandparents come over from Ireland in the famine and you know the Irish were just breaking into politics of Bosman is really the first Irish are old money if it becomes a beautiful Irish tenor and he would sing it through these proportions like parades where they would go out on a flatbed truck it was all my mules are by a truck and a grandmother beautiful pianist she was a team they were it was at a time when the Irish when they arrived here had been forbidden for 800 years participating in politics and so when they arrived on these shores they took to politics away that a starving man takes the food you know you you seem like the type of person that does a lot of due diligence and research I was I've always been fascinated with the story of JFK assassination a lot I've interviewed Jim Jenkins who was one of the autopsy folks who was in the room I've sat with Clint Hill which Clint Hill you obviously know who Clint Hill is and his interview with us has around four million views sat down with Abraham Bolden said that would set different people to talk about that over the years whether it's you know 1968 with your father or your uncle I can only imagine you reading pretty much anything and everything that comes up about that topic you know it's one of the most talked about topics around the world at what conclusion do you have so far today with what happened both with your father and your uncle you know I have a lot of time researching I actually I'm deep in the research I did read the book you can see where it's only and I interviewed people who who were part of a Cuban CIA group which is clearly the CIA officials twice because the Cubans were so deeply involved and they you know the CIA Cubans and Phillips was a was a CIA propagandist yet been involved in the 1953 coup in Guatemala fans he was at the big pigs he was doing propaganda there and then he ran the Cuban sabotage program alpha 66 these rating groups and it was people from that those teams you know we're the team that was involved in the assassination Lee Harvey on it was also Lee Harvey Oswald's case officer ridget Lee Harvey Oswald had worked directly for Jan Jesus Angleton it was the counterintelligence so the RB Oswald a radar operator that's a we Air Force Base and in Japan and that's where the u2 flights had taken off so he had very high security close top-secret he D flat he defected to the Soviet in 1957 and and then but his defection was what they called a dangled it was a real defection he was actually in CIA asset from that time and he was working for an angled enemy the reason for his defection was that angleton that there was a mole in Langley it's the reason they never had a good spy in Russia because as soon as they got somebody who defected he'd immediately get killed because there was somebody at Langley telling Angleton who ran that division counterintelligence supposed to trap Russian spies recruited Oswald to make fake defection to Russia because he believed he had his file on a trigger and Langley and they assumed that the KGB would be wondering who is this guy is he real and that they would contact them all with Langley and say go pull his file and tell us what it says so he had a traitor since to my eyes on that file so that he would know if somebody pulled any know that that was the hole it had never happened and so as well was recalled from an ad from Moscow three years later by then he'd already married the daughter of a KGB colonel and you know it came back here with Carina he was and at the airport never interrogated by the he was given money retired by the State Department six hundred dollars he flew to Dallas he was met by a CIA agent our assets in Dallas and took care of them on the job depository I hope took care of him through all this so turns but the whole time he was reporting to Jim and a vigil Hannity's who was who ended up being the liaison with the Warren Commission a ninja I was just hide stuff and of course Allen Dulles was see my uncle had fired and who was a chief suspect fascination ran the Warren Commission got himself appointed to it granted hide the CIA's but Oswald was you know was a pro Kennedy guy loved my uncle and you know was really - on Cubans who met Oswald and met him with David Lee Phillips you know I I think it's you know at the time the Warren Commission array will hide the CIA involvement but by 75 when they cards committee met they made the conclusion that yeah it was a conspiracy and the actually staff on for that committee all concluded that it was the CIA I think now we have so much documentation it's really would be almost crazy to think we're not you know in terms of my dad I never believed that there was conspiracy I always believed that Sirhan had acted alone it was so much evidence against his diaries and everything else and it's saying there were 77 eyewitnesses there were a lot of problems with the story Oswald could not ever shot my father as well was at the closest of five feet from my father his body was you know eight feet that's the closest any fire was near home sir I'm sorry sir hadn't met my father and the Ambassador Hotel kitchen he was the other steam table my father walked award him he fired two shots at my father one of those shots hit trade who is labor organizer for my father in the head all is alive today and very close friends and it's been trying for 20 years and sirhan out of jail because he knows he's innocent and he used the one who forced Aidid sit down the autopsy report etc yeah under bullet that he fired toward my father went past my four others here and landed in the doorjamb heaven was extracted from the doorjamb so we know what happened those two fellows as soon as he fired those it was a dog pile on my Rosie Aran Rafer Johnson and a concierge from the hotel a bunch of people who have them and the first thing they did is points got away from my father the opposite direction but they couldn't get it away from them sir had fired six other shots and empty the chamber was that it was an eight shot revolver and every one of those shots hit somebody so we know what happened to all of them there's two shots that way we know what happened it and that was six shots the other way my father was killed by four shots from behind and all according to Thomas negative G's autopsy Thomas Noguchi never believes her and used the greatest you know coroner in the history he on he said every one of those shots left tattoo on my dad they were all contacts the barrel of the gun was actually touching my father I'm planning the killer killed him and so what clearly happened he is sir as a distractor he was firing the shots he had no memory of it virtually everybody who's interviewed of believed that he was under some kind of hypnosis he fired the shots on and while people looking focused on him the purse another person I heard four shots from behind one went through harmlessly through the shoulder pad to his back to his head and in every case no one's touching them no but the the person who almost certainly fired those shots as man called Eugene thanks is our it was a what he worked at Lockheed he got the job security and three days before he worked at Lockheed as a high security job he was as it turns out the CIA agent and he he was he admitted he was seeing my father when he and as he was falling he turned around and he tore up scissors clip untie and so if you see him and say czar as he drew his gun he said he drew his gun when he saw he changed his story many times about like Judas when he stood up he had the gun out a police ever questioned him at that time and they never took it away he later sold the gun game sold the gun to another Lockheed and that gun was trying to track down says the bullets that came from Sir hands you didn't say I was in negotiations with him you know three months ago or in the Philippines to me he wanted to charge me $20,000 at time the motivation Robert was the motivation you think what I hear is the fact that your grandfather was so furious what happened was John F Kennedy he wanted your father to become a president so they can investigate the CIA is there any behind that because that's ridiculous because um first of all right my grandfather was how does a stroke in 1963 and he was essentially he even one of my uncle was killed he was already know my father you know when he ran for breath I'm sure that listen my father was it was that the best instigator of his age he's brought down the Mafia and he was on this Senate it was the chief counsel the Senate he was the rock Robert Mueller up his time times 10 if right down you know the Teamsters Union and the bakers in all of these for corruption he had you know he was the first person the serious across Hitler mafia and then he had become the Attorney General and he was at that time in a you can read all about this CIA and so we had all the Cubans in our house constantly CIA agents I grew up surrounded by a KGB agent CIA agents Cubans Special Forces rappelling off the roof of our house and my father would stop in the CIA every morning and they hated him there on his way to work at the Justice Department and the last thing I think they probably wanted was about two weeks before he died and when they realize you can't clearly win in California if you wanted duffle yeah he would clear you know non free and 62 Oh country under his garments and Popular's brother was a martyr and beloved he would have what he was asked at that point he passed many times what he thought in the Warren Commission whether he and he always dodged the question and although he privately believed that CIA killed his brother publicly would never say there was two weeks before he was that I think Los Angeles Community College there's a tape of him Wow now I wish we had another hour together but look we're at the end of it and I appreciate you sharing with us the tail end of it the last part of speedrun I'll give you a name just tell me the first thing that comes to your mom mind okay dr. Judy Mike Ovitz is a hero hero hero yeah no Guinness I would say the word dangerous Anthony Fauci hubris I would say hubris with Bill Gates is honest from rock Robert De Niro I do too Lyndon Johnson Lyndon Johnson was hey hey I liked Johnson okay I didn't like when he was was Vietnam baby a very sweet and he actually people don't know this but he was very kind to my father at a time when my father was shattered he really made a jealous their you know their relationship deteriorated but I think law enforcement he was a racist he grows from CDC that's my list Roberts thank you for agreeing to do this long-form interview I think we've been talking for a good two and a half hours on many different topics we're gonna put all the links below to your website we're gonna put the links brought to your books and any other specific articles that you want us to go to that's directed specifically the one that you want us our viewers to go see send it to us we'll put a link below as well for people to go out there and watch it okay thank you thank you so much for your time take care okay a lot was covered in this interview from vaccine autism fout she bill gates you got his family John F Kennedy Robert Kennedy his grandfather Joseph Kennedy so many things were covered in this interview was so deep even for me because I've interviewed so many the people who were involved in the JFK assassination was was a lot of people that have been talking about covert 19 or vaccine or autism so you know because of that we decided to do something different we have two different playlists here one of them is any of the interviews I've ever done on the story of a JFK and the Kennedy family click over here to watch these interviews on this playlist and if you want to watch the playlist link to start off with dr. 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